You run a publishing house: Kiuas. What does its name

mean? What is your goal as a publisher? You also are an editor of the Saratus magazine? If I am correct, the name means

“Dawn”. Why did you choose such a name? Can you tell us a little more about the magazine?

Kiuas means literally ”sauna stove”, and it was founded in March 2016.

My goal as a publisher is to bring forth interesting philosophical and political perspectives which are underrepresented in mainstream media and large publishing houses. We have published books by Finnish

authors and translations of Oswald Spengler, Joseph de Maistre, F.

Roger Devlin, Rolf Peter Sieferle and others. Not all our books deal with nationalism or new right. For example, we have published Eero

Paloheimo's book that tells about his project to build an ecological city in China. Most of our titles are non-fiction, but we have also published a few novels. Kiuas has an online bookstore which has a large selection of

second-hand books along our own titles. We also organize discussion events and literary happenings.

Kiuas and Sarastus online magazine are closely linked, and the idea of a publishing house was originally born among the members of Sarastus editorial staff. The name Sarastus (”Dawn”) was given by Kai Murros in 2012, when the magazine was founded. It refers to Sarastus' role as a think-tank that conceives new perspectives and ideas for a post-globalist

future. Our main idea is to bring together different kinds of nationalists and traditionalists and let their ideas interact freely. Several foreign authors, like Olena Semenyaka, Greg Johnson, Joakim Andersen, Jared Taylor, Fródi Midjord and Jim Goad, have contributed to Sarastus.

3. I have come across information that you were an editor of a magazine “Kerberos”. What kind of magazine was it? Is it still active?

Kerberos (”Cerberus”) was an independent literary magazine which was active in 2000-2014. Its circulation never surpassed a few hundred, but many prominent literary figures contributed to it.

4.You are the organizer of the Awakening conference, which has brought some of the most prominent figures of the

nationalist movement to Finland in 2018 and 2019.Do you plan to organize another edition of the conference? Are there any other events of this kind in Finland?

I am one of the organizers of Awakening, but I have so many other

responsibilities that the other organizers have been much more active in it than I. The third Awakening conference was originally to be held last week, but it was postponed due to Coronavirus epidemic. All public gatherings of more than 10 people are now forbidden in Finland and there are also restrictions on travel, so it would be impossible to organize an international conference of several hundred participants. We are

planning to organize it in September. Awakening is the only international nationalist / new right conference in Finland at the moment, but there have been several smaller conferences with Finnish speakers.

5.What is your relationship with the broader nationalist movement in Finland? Do you cooperate or support any organizations? What is the general condition of nationalist thought and movement in Finland?

Last November I became the second vice-chairman of Suomen Sisu.

Suomen Sisu is a kind of umbrella organization or a co-operation center for many kinds of Finnish nationalists. The nationalist forces in Finland are divided into two sectors. One is what I call ”political nationalism”. It is represented by the Finns Party, which is trying to obstruct the

immigrant flow. According to opinion polls it is now the most popular party in Finland, and it is the main opposition force to the leftist

government. The other sector is what I call ”cultural nationalism” or

”NGO nationalism”. It consists of many associations and advocacy groups, of which the largest and the most important is Suomen Sisu.

These two sectors are partly intertwined, because many Finns Party

representatives are also members of Suomen Sisu or other organizations.

But they work separately, on different fields.

Apart from Suomen Sisu, I am not member of any organization or party, and I have consciously kept a distance to all ideological disputes inside the nationalist movement. I do have my opinions on the ideological bones of contention, but I want them to be my own and not determined by any interest group. During the last two years there has been some disagreement between the so-called ethnonationalists and the more mainstream national populists. I am closer to the ethnonationalist view, because without the idea of ethnicity, nationalism can only be some kind of civic patriotism, and civic patriotism makes sense only as long as

Finland has ethnically homogenous population with shared history and roots. Anyhow, I think that the disagreement is mostly artificial and has more to do with egos of certain individuals than with any serious

ideological differences. Even though their manners of approach may differ, ethnonationalists and national populists both understand that we must above all stop and reverse the demographic change that is taking place in Finland and the Western Europe. No one really wants to live in a multi-ethnic mess or become an ethnic minority in their own country.

Any theoretical division should be put aside to reach the common goal.

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